Bret Kinsella, VP of AI Safety and Security at TELUS Digital, is helping enterprises move from AI guardrail guesswork to systematic, scalable testing that keeps generative AI both safe and useful. In this episode, Russ and Bret dig into how TELUS Digital built Fortify, an AI safety platform that lets teams simulate thousands of attacks in hours so they can find vulnerabilities before customers or adversaries do, and why shadow AI and data leakage are forcing organizations to rethink AI governance from the ground up.